In the 80-year coverup of the UFO mystery, there have been a handful of pivotal moments where public interest in the topic gained enough momentum to threaten the iron-clad, intractable code of silence adopted by military authorities and intelligence agencies. The 1952 overflights of Washington DC, the insider revelations unveiled by Major Donald Keyhoe, the outrage emanating from Project Blue Book’s ridiculous “swamp gas” type explanations, and the 2017 New York Times report about secret UFO programs and the Tic Tac incident each inspired demands for truth and transparency. But in each of those and other episodes, public interest eventually waned, in part because of clever cover stories, media manipulation, and debunking efforts by civilian “experts” who willingly espoused the themes crafted by secret keepers within the CIA, US Air Force, and a handful of defense contractors.

Right now, as 2025 comes to a close, another opportunity has arrived. A blockbuster film, Age of Disclosure, has broken through the indifference that is common among major news platforms and has grabbed the attention of a broad audience, including members of Congress. At the same time, a dramatic interview with UAP whistleblower David Grusch was broadcast worldwide on the Fox News Network. A new book by Dr. James Lacatski, a career intelligence analyst for the DIA, has revealed the extent of AAWSAP, the acronym for the largest acknowledged UFO investigation ever financed by the US government. Because of these and other factors, at this moment, the UFO topic has grabbed public attention in a way not seen in years.

Is this a pivotal moment in the history of the UFO/UAP mystery? And if so, what are the factors that led to this and what might the proponents of disclosure do next to make sure the moment is not another missed opportunity?

In this episode, Jeremy and George are joined by three longtime researchers (and observers of UFO World) to get their input about the current state of public momentum for transparency, the impact of the new Age of Disclosure film, how the increased interest among the public and media might influence the Trump Administration to act, and what is likely to happen next. The panelists include Ryan Robbins (known for his insightful commentaries on his YouTube channel “Post Disclosure World”), Danny Silva, former editor of the Silva Record publication, and Joe Murgia, aka UFO Joe, who produces highly detailed reports and interview transcripts on his X account.

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Joe Murgia’s reporting on X at https://x.com/theUFOjoe

Ryan "UFO Jesus" Robbin’s reporting on X at https://x.com/PostDisclosure

Danny Silva’s reporting on X at https://x.com/SilvaRecord

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